I have just watched Avengers 4 times and I ain’t even sorry.
Interesting things to note about the capabilities of the Mark VII vs. Mark VI (by the way: here’s some visuals for what I’m going to talk about):
Tony’s HUD now has two DISTINCTIVE modes. Unlike his Mark VI where everything is in blue, the Mark VII HUD’s normally blue interface spins to the left to replaced with a red interface. Probably designed specifically to handle multiple enemies. (1:42:14)
As for the repulsors, there will always be a slight/quiet charge up whistle right before he shoots anything.
The red wrist lasers are no longer chemical based. With the previous Mark VI capsules were ejected after usage. The Mark VII’s power source is Tony’s ARC reactor. Multiple usages are possible, however it is not unlimited. They are on BOTH hands. There are THREE beams on each hand, the center one is thicker. (2:00:56)
Two tank missiles on the forearms of both hands. Total: 4 at least.
Not only are there thrusters in the back and flaps for quick braking, but There are thrusters in the FRONT rib area. They can be seen as Tony guides the nuke up into the portal. (2:05:32) The red flaps that cover it can be completely removed to reveal gold plating. (best shot of Tony’s stripped armor is at 2:09:03 when the whole team confronts a post-hulk-smash Loki)
Speaking of removable things, the shoulder packs house mini HUD-guided missiles with tips that glow red. NOW. On the HUD it shows 23, on the suit in a single pack there’s 30 in the front. It looks like there’s at least 10 visible missiles in the separate back section. (1:42:39 roughly) So I guess the total count comes to at least 80.
These shoulder packs are completely removable and are seen falling off Tony as he lets go of the nuke. (maybe we’ll see Tony having something akin to a “pit stop” in the 3rd movie when he runs dry)
On the side of his upper thighs are circular discs, they hold flares. Tony must like them/use them a lot. The earliest suit to have them was the Mark III. And yes, they are even on the Mark V, the suitcase armor from Iron man 2. A definite sign that the Mark V can fly.
The silver packs on the front of the upper thighs house more explosive goodies. We have a HUD vs. Movie model vs. Hot Toys model difference again. On the HUD, 14 projectiles show up but the numbers go up to 24. What actually pops up are 4 missiles on each thigh, so total is 8. On the Hot Toys model there are 7 on a single SIDE x 2 = 14, total comes to 28. (observation starts at 2:01:05) They are also removable (again, 2:09:03 for stripped armor)
And that’s it so far.
This is glorious. Let me love you.
See, I am not a MechE. This is majorly impressive. The most I could tell you is maybe some comments on flight tech (I have some issues with the not-an-airfoil-ness) and that apparently his weaponized repulsors rely on capacitors (the charge-up whine).
And if we start talking weapons I’m lost like six ways to Sunday. but then we get back on the arc reactor and the tesseract and i won’t be able to let it go
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I love your brainstorms. Also, this is largely unimportant. but from a cinematography angle, the eagle head pointing right of the screen denotes progress whilst pointing left denotes the opposite which is…
Wow, that’s a whoooole lot of things I don’t think I would ever notice!
Their design team is definitely on the ball. Some very nice visuals. The tower has grown on me a bit, but it would be easier to have fights on if it had a normal roof. :)
In that regard I’m kinda actually glad they didn’t, I feel like it gives it a fresher visual dimension, but maybe that’s just me being sick of poor attempts at Spider-man-ness and parkour. :P
I love your brainstorms. Also, this is largely unimportant. but from a cinematography angle, the eagle head pointing right of the screen denotes progress whilst pointing left denotes the opposite which is interesting.
Aw, thanks! :D I didn’t know that… interesting. It would be interesting to know more of what’s going on behind the scenes there, like the fact that General Ross obviously used to be a part of those programs, and there were all the super soldier research attempts… hm.
a.k.a. a few thoughts I had the fourth and siiiixth? time I saw this movie
a.k.a. why I love the designers of these films
You get kind of my train-of-thought on this but honestly when do you not.
Okay so we’re going to start with THE SHIELD LOGOS.
(Heheh I’ve been playing around with my tablet a little, too.)
The logo on the left is from The Incredible Hulk movie, when SHIELD is scanning the internet for “Mr. Blue” and “Mr. Green”. The version on the right is from a promo image for Avengers. I think it’s really interesting that they slicked it up a bunch, and I honestly have no idea how old the logo on the left might be, pre-2008-Hulk. One of the reasons I love the Marvel Cinematic Universe, is one, duh, their obsessive eye for design detail, but also the fact that they’ve managed to tech things up over and over again (while still managing to keep Thor very magical and so forth) and it’s just sooo right up my alley.
But anyway, SHIELD’s been around since the 40’s, right, with Captain America and Howard Stark? I can’t remember if they mention it explicitly in the film, but we know from Howard’s appearance in Iron Man 2, from Fury’s and Coulson’s comments, that Howard did work for SHIELD. Well, and, Avengers obvs, they have all the old HYDRA tech.
I don’t think it’s necessarily important, but the eagle head turns from left-facing to right-facing, and I think it’s interesting that by modernizing the logo they stripped it down and removed a lot of the “old governmental feel” with the crest decorations, removing the eagle’s talons, etc. It feels a lot more like a spy organization.
Interesting, they did something similar with Tony’s screens and such, dropping the Apple monitors for fake glass monitors or just straight up holo-imaging. Interestingly, the SHIELD helicarrier in Avengers uses this too, although not all the monitors? Because we see people sitting at the monitor banks, theoretically controlling and monitoring important helicarrier stats (and playing Galaga). (Although, regardless of their glass-ness or not, they certainly seem less translucent than Fury’s and Hill’s stations.)
I really enjoy how they laid out the control bridge of the Helicarrier, it’s very open and feels different than other “bridges” from other sci-fis, and I can’t help but think it feels kinda retro-dieselpunky (god I hate that word) like Captain America’s flying wing (lol Raiders) or Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow? Anyone drinking my kool-aid on this one? Anyway, there’s a lot of interesting spatial dynamics going on in that whole room (fuck, the whole helicarrier) and I love it.
Okay so DOOP DOOP I’m sitting in the theater (the fifth time? with my grandma? I guess I was wrong on the “fourth” time before) and I noticed something.
Yeah so I kinda freaked out, because the first time in I had already noticed the interesting arrangement of staff seating, but I didn’t see the head until the fifth or so viewing, and I don’t think there’s any good payoff shot (of the whole set floor layout) until this one toward the end.
ALRIGHT SO WITH THAT IN MIND I saw it a few more times and I’m paying less and less attention to the characters and the story (as you do), and I’m sitting on the flight back out to school and justHOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK
Which I feel terrible it took me ALL SUMMER TO NOTICE because the fucking skyscraper was ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I FELL IN LOVE WITH WHEN I SAW AVENGERS THE FIRST TIME, IT’S ONE OF THE ESTABLISHING SCENES, and I was all up in my architecture-feels and when the “RK” went down and later the “S” I was like “FUCK I KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING” and STEVE THOUGHT IT WAS TACKY and I’m just like SHUT UP STEVE WITH YOUR 1940s VIEW ON MODERN ARCHITECTURE, YOU MISSED LIKE ALL MY FAVORITE PARTS OF MODERNISM LIKE GOOGIE AND SHIT and I’m defending this tower and I kinda hate it on the NY skyline but on it’s own HOT DAMN it’s fine, it’s got a landing pad and talk about those top penthouse floors and all that glass beauty and did I mention (I haven’t, I don’t think) the cross-sections kinda look like Tony’s helmet viewed from the side and ALSO this angle CONVIENTLY SHOOTS TONY AND THE MISSILE RIGHT INTO THE PORTAL and just
This building, man
[EDIT: Apologies, watched IM2 again tonight and noticed something relevant, had to post. So I’m watching it and I noticed Nat’s shoulder crest is the same as in Incredible Hulk, despite the two year movie lapse. Same goes for all the SHIELD tech later with Fury and Tony.
So I’m thinking, okay, that’s interesting that it’s the same as a movie that sort of took place two years earlier. But then you know what? Fury says “we’d only like to use you as a consultant.” Despite the fact that we saw Tony visit General Ross’ bar in 2008, it didn’t actually happen two years before the events of Iron Man 2.
So I sought out Marvel’s official timeline, and, as I suspected, the end of Incredible Hulk and the end of IM2 overlap in “Fury’s Big Week”. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE WE SEE ON THAT TIMELINE?
Fury’s Big Week, Day Six:
HOLY SHIT-TITS Y’ALL
did I call it or did I call it]
[EDIT2: Since we’re watching Thor I had to cross-check:
yeah we’re all good here. Marvel’s got their shit together.]
Because I have lost my mind and started writing fanfic, I was watching Iron Man recently with the sound off so I could refresh my memory on the details of the house. I, er, got sucked into it a bit and couldn’t decide if this is really interesting set design or just really weird. More fuel for the What the Hell Even is Tony engines.
Warning, this is LONG. Also, per usual, movie-verse only. (I’m not even sure where one would start doing this kind of thing with the comics, if it would even be possible given restarts, redesigns, ret-cons, alternate timelines, whathaveyou.) All crappy screen grabs are my own.
I had thought going into this that we don’t see a lot of the house interior, but it turned out that I had forgotten a lot of the Iron Man 2 sets. (A lot of those get trashed during the fight with War Machine.)
To start with the obvious, the place is HUGE. How many thousands of square feet does one guy need?
Let’s start upstairs and work our way down.
Bedroom: There’s a rather nice telescope in his bedroom. Not only do the windows polarize, they’re part of JARVIS’s display system, and in Iron Man 2 we’re getting some kind of fancy mirror effect in the dressing room (which has its own bar and the only book I’ve spotted anywhere in the upstairs, under that table).
I’m pretty sure the foyer is on the same level, that it’s the bit off to the uppermost right in the wide-angle view. Rather, it was on the same level.
Well, it was a boring room anyway. Moving down.
Living Room: The second-most-used set after the workshop, surprisingly organic. Everything is curves, light neutrals and natural materials. There’s a wall fountain, a couple of low-profile plants, gobs of natural light. As ostentation goes? Pretty understated.
The existence of the piano (off to the left in this shot) fascinates me. The only person we ever see play it is Obie, an interesting bit of characterization for him. A fic I read recently brought in the notion that Tony, like most rich kids, was made to take music lessons as a child, which doesn’t strike me as unlikely.
What’s missing here? Any trace of conventional American masculinity, and anything remotely personal. The house in general looks like a classy hotel.
Gym: Takes up a fair chunk of that square footage, and it’s implied that it sees regular use. Until it gets comprehensively wrecked, anyway.
There’s also the “party room,” which is basically a public area, so we’ve covered all of the living space that we get to see.
None of which looks like anyone lives there. I think we can discard the possibility of lazy set design, given the attention lavished on minutia like the suit interface. I haven’t made up my mind how to interpret it. On the one hand, the house has to have been built or at least extensively remodeled to order, because even rich people don’t build a garage that could serve as aircraft hangar as a matter of course, not to mention all of the wacky wiring etc. for JARVIS. So you’d think that the living space reflects what Tony actually likes because why wouldn’t it? On the other hand, across both films we almost never see him up there alone, so it could well be that the entire house is Public Tony, the things people expect of him, and he doesn’t care one way or the other. (In which case, possibly it’s Pepper’s taste we’re seeing? The NY penthouse has a darker palette but a lot of design elements in common with Malibu.)
Workshop/Garage: This is the part of the house we see the most of by far. It’s largely opposite to the upstairs: concrete, fluorescent lights, metal, loud music, and much more actual stuff.
Someone liked that ocean view enough to put a massive bank of windows in the garage, though.
Aside from a few fixtures like the holographic drafting table, the furniture changes constantly, so I decided to stick to what strikes me as characterization details and realized that even here, there aren’t many. There’s cars, robots, computers, a jukebox (surprisingly retro) and ten thousand tools. The personal stuff that is down here is not Tony’s; it’s Howard’s
I have seen references to that hot rod Tony’s fussing with in the flashback as a perpetual project, never to be finished.
Same car? The airplane propeller on the wall is presumably a Howard relic as well. There is a photograph of him and Tony on one of the desks. There’s the model/prototype/whatever Captain America shield that shows up in both movies. Yep, entirely free of nostalgia you are the world’s worst liar Tony. (1)
What’s missing? Any evidence that his mother even existed. Anything—with the notable exception of Dummy and the others—that speaks to Tony’s own forty-odd years of life.
A couple of things about the workshop strike me in contrast to a lot of fics. Maybe there’s bleedover from the comics continuities to explain it, or maybe it’s just the clearly-widespread impulse to write Tony as more of a disaster than he already is. (Please note: I adore the Toasterverse and its cousins as much as the next person. I do movie analysis for my own entertainment, not because I have any negative thoughts about anyone else’s stuff. Write/read whatever you want and have fun.)
First off, there is nothing in the entire place that I would call frivolous. When it comes to toys, he seems to restrict himself to things with engines and theoretically useful, semi-sentient robots.
Second, the place is usually clean. When he’s in full-on obsessive work mode, it’s full of stuff, but it’s stuff that has a purpose, and in between projects the place is freaking spotless. Generally speaking, movie-verse Tony is a tidy person and careful of his things. In that flashback workshop scene? He’s got his watch on upside down, which you do when you don’t want to get it dirty. (He’s also wearing it on his right hand for some reason.) There isn’t so much as an oil stain on the floor.
Granted, the deeper we go into the first movie, the more space the armor takes up.
Wow no, that’s not metaphorical or anything. Still, neither the space nor his person is by any means disorganized.
By the time we get to Iron Man 2 there’s been some remodeling, and the armor has its own dedicated area.
This actually strikes me as borderline out of character, in that we’ve seen Tony’s not one for mementos. The armor is, presumably, different.
They also gave the workshop a new, black floor for IM2. The look for the entire movie is darker, much more of it takes place at night, and color when present is hyper-saturated. At least, until we get to the Science! part, where they turn the sun back on; I did mention lack of subtlety?
This is a reference post, not so much a thinking post, but I do suspect that those windows are there for a good reason. It would have been easy and even practical to make the room windowless. The fact that they are there at all makes this not the Batcave, because Tony isn’t Batman.
I’m still a little upset that they’re going to blow up the house in IM3 (2), but looking back on this post, I guess there’s nothing there that’s going to be missed.
1 From dictionary.com: …coined 1668 by Johannes Hofer as a rendering of Ger. heimweh, from Gk. nostos “homecoming” + algos “pain, grief, distress”
2 Why you have to be rich to be a superhero; he’ll never be able to buy insurance again.
UTTER EXCELLENCE. You know, in case I haven’t Tony-spammed you enough already today.
A couple notes on the stark-ness (lol pun) of the design; interesting that they rely so much on that sort of mid-century feel which I think is both a reference to his comics legacy (in our world) and his father (in his), as well as being that sort of aspirational-mid-century-feelgood-space-and-science thing. It’s also a part of him being filthy rich, I think. When you look in “Architectural Digest” and stuff, the houses and things are props and cleaned up and organized properly and rarely feel lived-in (and that is why I hate that magazine).
Yet at the same time, I think it’s a part of, well, like I said, “modernism”, as well as him being an engineer, that he wants everything laid out very obviously and linearly. Like a CAD drawing, or a periodic table, where the information is all very accessible, and a sort of natural organic design sensibility comes about out of the presentation and organization of information. But maybe that’s just my engineer voice speaking.
So me and my friend have been talking about some connections and weird coincidences that surround Tony Stark’s arc reactor and the Tesseract in the Marvel movieverse. Maybe it’s out there, but some of the similarities are eerie enough to give all of this a good thought. This is a pretty lengthy theory, so click that “read more” if your interest is spiked.
Alright, let’s travel back to 1942 when Johann Schmidt storms into Norway in search of the Tesseract. Here we learn that the Tesseract was the “jewel of Odin’s treasure room”, letting us know that its origins are from Asgard, where Thor tells Jane that magic and science are the same thing (which is something I want you to keep in mind while reading this). Schmidt tells the Norwegian man the same thing: “You are a man of great vision…what others see as superstition, you and I know to be science.” He kills the man and open fires onto the town because he’s a huge jerkstore, taking the Tesseract with him. Later we see Dr. Arnim Zola about to attempt to use the energy of the Tesseract to see if it’s capable of powering his weapons designs. As we know, they succeed. I’m guessing Zola’s weapons were very futuristic in their design, requiring an energy stronger than electricity or perhaps even nuclear power or any earthen fuels. Which says a lot about the energy needed to power those weapons. And we see them in action, we see that they’re capable of turning a person into nothingness (also note that the sound of these weapons firing off sound dead on the Iron Man suit’s repulsor beams).
Steve Rogers eventually storms into the HYDRA base, enraged that his military superiors wouldn’t even bother to rescue those imprisoned within its walls. We see some giant circular structures that are being used as energy sources for the base:
Anyway, Steve manages to steal a sample of the Tesseract’s energy components and returns it back to the good guys.
Here’s where things start to pick up some more relevance, if the above wasn’t convincing enough.
We know Howard Stark starts running tests on the sample Steve managed to bring back. Hell, he even does something to it that causes it to go unstable and blast him backwards (those damn Starks and things exploding on them), followed by a “write that down”. Later, after the Tesseract “kills” Schmidt/Red Skull (though if we refer to The Avengers we see that it has the ability to transport people to other worlds, leading me to believe that the Tesseract didn’t kill Skull, just sent him someplace else, especially if you watch that scene closely) and after Steve crashes into the ice, we see Howard Stark searching for Steve only have their radar picking up the energy signal of the Tesseract at the bottom of the ocean. He fishes it out, and continues looking for Steve.
I believe that Howard spent a lot of time running tests on the Tesseract, very possibly trying to replicate its energy. We know he wasn’t exactly successful, but I think it at least inspired him to create very similar designs (primarily the large arc reactor that powers the Stark Industries generator, which was later destroyed to completely fry Obadiah Stane to hell and back), providing Tony with the knowledge to create these replica designs via palladium.
Quick cut-scene: maybe you’re asking yourself how Howard could have possibly run tests on the Tesseract when it ended up in S.H.I.E.L.D.’s custody. That’s simple, Nick Fury tells Tony Stark in Iron Man 2 that Howard was one of the founding members of S.H.I.E.L.D., and as a scientist and engineer, that would give him plenty of time and authority to study the artifact.
Howard left plenty of clues behind for Tony, which was damn useful since the palladium of his arc reactor at the time was poisoning and killing him. Howard even records a message for him, telling the specific reason why he can’t do what Tony can: he’s limited by the technology of his time (and if you’re buying this theory so far, may I just point out the deeper meaning and irony behind “I built this for you”?). We then have Tony analyzing Howard’s model of New York City, finally picking up on the riddles and clues his father left behind for him. Then we have an impressive sequence with badass music and muscly arms, where Tony creates a new element and all is well. It’s impressive, but highly unbelievable if you think about things in the terms of scientific logic.
Now, I know someone is going to pull the “but this is a movie based from comic books” card. I know, I know, okay? But bear with me and just take a little stroll with me outside of the open boundaries of science-fiction and comic book logic for a bit and look at this logically (or as logically as we can while pretending that all of this is possible).
Tony says to Fury in Iron Man 2 that he’s tried every known element on Earth to find a replacement for Palladium. He then creates this new, unnamed element. Now, transuranium elements (let’s just call them super-heavy elements) do exist, and scientists have created a couple atoms of them in special laboratory experiments. Problem: all of them are so unstable that they only live for a few fractions of a second before decaying into nothing, or they’re so radioactive they’d kill you. If Tony had actually managed to create a new element stronger than palladium when no other element was a suitable replacement, it would not have continued to live and work within the reactor or Tony would just have died from radiation exposure. I won’t even go into element half-life, but there, I mentioned it.
None of that would have been possible…unless he managed to somehow successfully replicate one of Howard’s formulas to produce Tesseract material.
We know that the Tesseract can power machines and weapons that require a great deal of energy. Tony’s suit would be a weapon that requires an extreme amount of energy. And let’s be honest, a little thing like the arc reactor could not realistically power a weaponized suit like Stark’s unless there were some other (perhaps otherworldly) properties going on there.
Now we arrive to The Avengers, where the Tesseract rears its ugly head again as a formidable force to be reckoned with. The most important - and only - scene I’m really going to talk about from this movie in concern with this theory is when Loki attempts to control Tony via the scepter, which is a weapon powered by the Tesseract. It flat out does not work. Now, there’s reasonable doubt here as to whether or not the scepter would have been able to place Tony under Tesseract Mind Control if it had touched his skin rather than have been prodding at the reactor. Reasonable doubt because we know from Iron Man 2 that the new reactor gave Tony a boost, judging from his reaction when he put it in. Maybe the new Tesseract fueled reactor sends enough of its enegy through Tony’s body that even if the scepter had touched his skin it still wouldn’t work. Regardless of that speculation, the reactor completely shuts down the scepter. It doesn’t just not have an effect on Tony, the reactorshuts the scepter down.
My friend suggested that Tesseract energy can’t be used against the Tesseract other than to neutralize it, which is supported by the fact that the scepter was able to shut down the actual Tesseract that was creating a giant wormhole in space for the Chitauri to come through. Also, take into consideration that Stark Tower is powered by arc reactor energy, which I’m presuming is based off of Tony’s new reactor since Pepper tells Tony that “all of this came from that” and points to his new reactor.
More interesting similarities…
The chamber Tony uses for the reactor to power his tower (yay rhyming!):
The chamber used to hold the Tesseract to send Loki back:
Also, look who brings the Tesseract:
Another quick, interesting tidbit is that Nick Fury tells Tony Stark in Iron Man 2 that Howard was about to “embark on an energy race that would dwarf the arm’s race”, something that would make nuclear energy look like a “Triple A battery”. And look what Tony’s bragging about in The Avengers: “I’m the only name in clean energy right now.”
The one thing that some of you may be thinking doesn’t fit into all of this is that in the novelization of Iron Man 2, the new element that Tony creates is named as Vibranium, which we know is the metal that Steve’s shield is made out of.
Usually the Tesseract disintegrates everything it blasts. Leaves nothing behind. The only objects the Tesseract has not been able to turn to nothingness are Steve’s shield and Mjölnir, which we know was crafted in the explosion of a dying star. An explosion. Kind of makes you think about how Vibranium is the rarest metal on Earth (How did it get here? Via explosion?) and the only source of it found on Earth was crafted into Steve’s shield. It still fits with the theory that the Tesseract’s energy (which may be Vibranium fueled) can’t be used against another form of its energy other than to neutralize it, or in this case, simply not affect it at all (also think of the explosion that took place when Thor attacked Steve in the forest). Maybe Vibranium has both metallurgical and chemical variants.
Well, if you’ve made it to the end of this post, congrats. I hope this was at least interesting.
OMG EVERYBODY LOOK
IT’S A TESSERACT/TECH ESSAY AND IT’S NOT MINE
Okay THE BEST PART ABOUT THIS is how it fills EXACTLY the hole I pointed out before: Tony would not be “discovering” an element his father had worked with,i.e. vibranium.
TWO, I LOVE THE GIANT HYDRA TECH/ARC REACTOR THEORY, because I have yet to rewatch Captin America since accidentally dissertationing on the tesseract.
The only qualm I have is a minor one, that the size change from the display arc reactor in IM1 to Tony’s miniaturized one in the cave is not a matter of elemental power source but rather just technological miniaturization— I mean, we even (hypothetically) have Hydra evidence that they created smaller tesseract batteries than Howard/Stark Industries’ giant one. HOWEVER it could be some sort of geometric law of physics because if we look at the tesseract harness at the beginning of Avengers, and the equipment Banner is using in the Helicarrier to look for the tesseract, and, to a lesser extent, the portal-harness at the end, they all echo this circular array setup.
HOWEVER I love how fucking elegantly this solves the design dilemma of “Tony discovering vibranium” which AFAIK is not stated in the movies anyway, only the novelization. (Vibranium itself, is, well, a whole ‘nother matter.)
More on the nitty gritty, however: the palladium that Tony is using throughout IM1 and IM2 is acting as a stabilizer, for who knows what some kind of reaction (where we see in his cave-science and also with Vanko that there’s some kind of gaseous or fluidic addition that causes the glow). (Palladium is also in the same metal group as iridium— what Selvig says he needs to stabilize the tesseract portal.)
Actually, crap, I might have to go back and find my original notes on this, because I initially stumbled onto it when I was researching catalytic converters and incidentally, looking at wikipedia just now, palladium is also used in fuel cells. But I believe there’s a line in either Iron Man or IM2 about this? That it’s a stabilizer? Anyway, it brings up interesting thoughts regarding the line “what’s keeping you alive is also killing you”, because catalytic converters decrease pollution output.
When I rewatch Iron Man 2 tonight I will report back, because THIS SHIT IS MY LIFE NOW. (Hahaha, you think I’m kidding…)
BUT OH. MY GOD. IF THE ELEMENT THAT TONY DISCOVERED MAKES SPACE WARPING A POSSIBILITY? YES. YES I SHIP THIS LIKE THE MOTHERFUCKING USPS. And I’m already sort of a philatelic, SO.
I mean, if we’re talking heavy elements (we are), and on top of that potentially transuranium heavy elements, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT ELEMENTS THAT ARE SO DENSE THAT YOU HAVE EIGHT SPACE CUBES IN ONE SPACE. HOW DO YOU FUCKING LIKE THAT.
(brb break for me crying because I AM OUT OF CONTROL TODAY, EMOTIONALLY, BETWEEN THIS AND THE S.H.I.E.L.D. SHOW GREENLIGHT)
OKAY! Okay. So this reaffirms all my suspicions that the Tesseract will remain key in the Marvel Movie Universe/franchise. Although hopefully not strictly because it would be too much to have everyone always focusing on this one thing rather than doing their own, and eventually it would devolve into an argument about Marvel Spice-Must-Flow-Where-Are-The-Dilithium-Crystals-Hey-Assholes-We’re-Out-Of-Tylium-Suddenly-It’s-All-A-Parallel-For-the-Oncoming-Energy-Crisis (and isn’t it convenient that I stumbled on this article yesterday).
Although they did say it emitted Gamma radiation, which, admittedly, I was about to use Banner as an outlier to the tesseract-focus theory, but I guess I kinda can’t now. Shit
here’s hoping they don’t also tie in Clint and Natasha to that thread
Okay, I guess, one last complaint I forgot about. I’m not in love with the idea that the Tesseractium (which for some unknown design reason is a triangle and I cannot fathom it) is stopping Loki’s Magic Mind-Warping Mace. (Not a mace, yes, just trying to alliterate.) Well, at least, not strictly on its own. Possibly assisting, but to me it has more to do with the function of Tony’s not-an-artificial-heart in that it acts as electromagnetic field (which was what Yinsen put it initially, hooked up to a car battery) that repels the shrapnel.
Incidentally, I’m not totally in love with the EMF-reactor concept, either, but that’s because I overanalyze things, ESPECIALLY the engineering ones. One, it really bothers me that it’s just “keeping this shrapnel away” rather than him going in for surgery to get it taken out. Shrapnel could still cause internal damage and bleeding even if it’s not finding its way into his vital organs. Two, I always want to say it looks like it’s hooked up to his heart’s action as well because he nearly dies when Stane takes it out of him, but then I remember that Stane gave him the sonic-paralytic so nevermind.
Um, also, rewatching IM the other day, when he gets Pepper to put the second arc reactor in in the lab scene, there’s that dangly hookup, and I was just like “wtf? He took the magnet out what is going on” and then he’s just like “hook it into the base plate” TONY WHY DO YOU HAVE A BASE PLATE IN YOUR CHEST CAVITY THERE IS LIKE NO EARTHLY REASON FOR THAT TO BE NECESSARY.
However, same scene, of note: he took the ghettorigged magnet out at that point so theoretically the second reactor acts to create an EMF field without such an obviously “magnet” magnet. Design concept that I feel is probably worthy of note (if only because I might bitch about it again in the future regarding engineering and plot consistency).
Fun fact, I just wiki’d artificial hearts and the guy who first successfully got one implemented was named Jarvik. There’s probably some horrible, wretched, break-your-heart angsty fic (or maybe just essay parallel) hiding in that fact regarding Tony’s arc reactor and the fact that Jarvis used to be his actual human butler in the comics but is now a computer program.
[EDIT: Meant to add a note about the colors of Tony’s repulsors/reactors. Generally they seem more whitish to me, and I think the bluish tint in the underwater scene was the water itself. However I’m not going to totally dismiss it as his “tech” has had a blue theme in all the movies, from his computers to his holoCAD to Jarvis to the HUD. (which really bothered me in Avengers?! like seriously I don’t think he was joking about the spinning rims because he fucking lit his helmet up with blue neon underlighting. TONY.)
ALSO LET’S APPRECIATE WHATEVER WRITERS/ADVISORS/EVERYONE WHO ARE WRITING RELATIVELY ACCURATE SCIENCE PLOTS REGARDING… SCIENCE. I.E. PALLADIUM AND IRIDIUM AND TESSERACTS AND STARK’S LAWS AND ALL OF THAT WHOLE JAZZ]
One of the reasons I love Shakespeare so much is that he trusted his audience was smart enough to keep up . Nowadays, Hollywood - with few exceptions of course - has the poor habit of not trusting the audiences intelligence and begins the process of bogging down its prose with poor exposition; and in this process of catering to the lowest common denominator, they create a self-fulfilling prophecy and begin dumbing down the audience along with the story itself.
I laugh when I imagine Shakespeare having to take notes from some studio executive who lectures him about his confounding poetry not playing well in the 18-34 demographic.
SE: Bill, baby. This line: For in that sleep of death what dreams may come when we have, blah, blah, blah. You’ve already lost me!!! Can’t you just say: Dying is scary. I mean, come on! Hamlet just goes on and on. Furthermore, why doesn’t he just go and Kill the uncle right away? And I really think Hamlet and Ophelia need a hot sex scene.
Re: why I am that person in the audience laughing by myself.
I'm excited for the S.H.I.E.L.D. show BUT not as much as everyone else ~because~ Whedon was confirmed only to write the pilot (so far). I know, we all expect that they'll keep him on board the whole ride, but I'm still jaded over Firefly and refuse to get my hopes up too high :c /pout
Oh for sure :( To be honest I’m just excited that they’re doing it in the first place, considering it brings in the option to let us know what’s going on with the characters who aren’t getting movies yet. The personification of my internal monologue is pretty much running around screaming out of control.
ABC has ordered a pilot for S.H.I.E.L.D, a live-action series from The Avengers writer-director Joss Whedon, Marvel TV and ABC Studios. The project is based on Marvel’s peacekeeping organization S.H.I.E.L.D (which stands for Strategic Hazard Intervention Espionage Logistics Directorate). S.H.I.E.L.D. will be written by Whedon, his bother Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen.
Joss Whedon also is set to direct the pilot, schedule permitting. Production on the pilot, which marks the first live-action Marvel TV project to get a green light, will start immediately. Joss Whedon, Jed Whedon and Tancharoen executive produce with Jeffrey Bell and Marvel TV’s Jeph Loeb.
ONE) I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS
TWO) IT BETTER BE NAT AND CLINT AND BRUCE AND THEIR LACK OF FUCKING MOVIES FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS FUCK YOU MARVEL
THREE) WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT COBIE SMULDERS ALREADY BEING IN HIMYM DO NOT RECAST MARIA HILL OR I WILL RECAST MY FIST INTO YOUR FACE
ASDLKJADLAKJSBDLASKJDBLDSB I AM SO INARTICULATE RIGHT NOW
AND FUCKING NOBODY IS AWAKE IN MY TIME ZONES TO FREAK ABOUT THIS WITH ME
FACEBOOK IS SILENT, TUMBLR HAS GONE TO BED, EVEN, LIKE, AUSTRALIA IS NOT QUITE HAPPENING YET